Been lusting after a Televue 85 for some time, now, but can't say my bank account agrees. To keep the internal peace, I have been considering a less expensive, though still quality, option in the Vixen ED81SWT. This Japanese telescope may not measure up to overall quality of a Televue, but it's no slouch and has recieved some excellent reviews. The money I save would allow me to add a Vixen Porta mount, plus an eyepiece or two. Be the perfect grab and go scope and would look nice in either my living room or my patio. Tough choice, but it is nice to have a choice when it comes to quality APO refractors. Where's that rebate?